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h just behind me. murdering nine people in cold blood as they studied the bible. tonight, we have exclusive images that showed just how kal clated this attack was. one of the victims actually took these images in this image, you can see the gunman sitting at a table. that's the back of his head. witnesses say he sat quietly there for roughly an hour. we obviously had no inkling of what was about to happen. tonight, the suspected is in custody. here he is boarding a plane a few hours ago in north carolina
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where he landed a few hours ago. now, as you know we don't show shooting suspects on this program. we don't believe they should get any recognition. but because of this alleged hate crime, which many were referring to as an act of domestic terrorism, because they're going and still looking, we are going to show his face and use his name but sparingly on the program tonight. there is a lot of information to get to. >> a wednesday night bible study erupts in gunshots. >> the shooting at emanuel african methodist episcopal church one of the oldest in the
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south and once part of the underground railroad. at the scene, eight are pronounced dead, six females two males. another man dies later in the hopt. >> you will need at least four medic units. >> the gunman manages to evade officers in a forensic man hunt ensues. the charles ton police department releases this photo of a young man entering the church on wednesday evening. >> we have investigators who are out tracking leads that are coming in. we will continue to do that until we find this individual tonight and bring him to justice. >> the man hunt continues as in the meantime the community tries to comprehend what is incomprehensible. >> we woke up today and the
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heart and soul of south carolina was broken. and so we have some grieving to do. the president is noticeably shaken. >> any death of this sort is a tragedy. e in a place of worship. >> by mid-morning, a tip from someone whoa thinks they recognize the shooter's car some 250 miles west of charleston.
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10:43 a.m. officers stopped the car at 10:44 a.m. he was talken into custody and transported here in shelby police department. >> taken into custody during a traffic stop without incident. >> the suspect is now in custody. the immediate threat no longer exists. we'll let the legal process run its course. >>. >> he'll be held at the county detention center. he's probably being held in isolation. and then on top of that he'll have a suicide watch placed upon him. they want to make sure nothing
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absolutely nothing happens to him. now they're going to be focused on finding more about him. was it the same weapon he was allegedly given by his family? >> right. on his 21st birthday after, my understanding, after he had been brought up on the charges of trespassing and also some drug charnls. >> they're relatively minor. as far as the report of weapons, only allowing him to have access very recently. that's probably going to be done.
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and then the question goes who's the first to prosecute. it's obviously going to be a capital offense. >> it's martin i appreciate the update throughout the hour. we're going to be focusing on the victims of this mass killing. the lives they lived and the loved ones that they have left behind. te it. first of all, how are you holding up. how is this community holding up? >> well, we're doing our best. as a family we're communicating on each other. we're encouraging each other and doing our best in that part. the community is doing such a superb job.
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just out pouring of love and support is just awesome. >> a friend of yours was inside and describe to me what happened. explain to me what you heard about what happened. this young man was allegedly in there for an hour. >> yes, yes. he came in. and he asked for the minister. where's the minister. ot sure of that information. but from what i had heard, he asked for my cousin. and my cousin being the nice, kind welcoming person that he
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is, he welcomed him to his congregation. he sat there for an hour. listening. and, at the conclusion of the bible study, they just heard a ringing of a loud noise. to kill black people. >> well, i didn't hear that. what i heard was after shooting a couple of rounds her son tried to talk him into not
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committing any more acts of murder. he tried to talk him down. and her, her son and grand baby had already planned that they were just going to ask because they were already killed. o do he said no you've raped our women and you're taking over the country. i have to do what i have to do. >> and he shot the young man. his mother was there and
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pretended as though she was dead. but she watched her son fall and laid there. and for when i got to talk with her, her entire dress was covered in blood. she said that's my son's blood. he was a good boy. he was a good boy. >> and he passed? >> and he passed. along with one of her aunts. >> yeah. >> what happens now? i mean what -- >> all we can do is just pray and be there for one another, support one another. rally together. and just ask god for strength. >> tell me about your cousin? about the pastor. i heard so many incredible things. to get a pastor at age 18. >> yes, he was an incredible young man.
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he always knew what he wanted. even though his mother told me the story where he wanted to -- he would just sit home and read books. and she said no you need to get out and play ball. you need to get out and play sports. and he didn't want to do it. but she pushed him into it. and he did. and he got hit by a ball and he got injured. and she made up her mind at that point, that's it. so that's what he did. what he wanted, he focused on it. >> do you know how long they stayed in there? i meechb after -- do you know how long the shooting went on for?
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i uchbs he had to reload. >> did he simply walk out? >> yes, he told whether the elderly members, he asked her did i shoot you? and she said no. >> he asked her. she said no. he said good. we need a survivor because i'm going to kill myself. >> why did he say he needed a survivor? >> so someone could tell the story. >> that's what he actually said to this person? >> yeah. he walked out and he did let the elderly member go. and she's a survivor, as well. >> oh, my gosh. >> do you think this community can rebuild? >> yes, i believe we can.
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we have strong bonds here with each other. >> what do you want to see happen to this young man? >> i just want to make sure justice is done. we prayed for him, as well, and his family. we just pray that justice is done. but i know he has a mother and a father. and they'rehearted broken, as well. so we don't wish any ill on them. we just want justice to be done and we want the family to know that we're praying for them, as well. >> it's a pretty brave thing to do at a time like this. >> yes, but we have to do that. >> please give our best to all of your friends. just an incredible story as
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we woke up today and thehearted and soul of south carolina was broken. so we've got some grieving to do. and we have some pain that we have to go through. >> that was south carolina's governor visibly breaking down earlier today. we're live from kwhaurlston, a city beside itself with grief. >> a short time ago, the suspect arrested in north carolina this morning was flown back here to charleston. joining me now is the charleston mayor, joe riley. >> your thoughts tonight on what you've seen here over the last 24 hours and how this community is doing? >> well, the heartbreak is extraordinary. and the pain that the families
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feel and the community feels, the enormous outpouring of love and support from this community has been extraordinary. today, there were prayer vigils all over the community. we created a fun, mid-morning announcement that people could have something to do with help. people started flooding with calls and contributions they wanted to make. this is really -- >> that's the bulk of the families for the victims? >> and for the church. you know, lost its pastor. so the heartbreak was felt throughout the community, was felt in the family of this wonderful church. but every citizen in the city to have this unspeakable, hateful act of this person that didn't live here.
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lived 110 miles away. a and why he came here he had pulled out a gun and killed the people i can't possibly fathom why. >> this church has such an important role knowing the history of this community, but the history of the african american community of america. >> this hateful, crazy person. but i don't know. the pastor the leader, his presence you know is tall and has a deep voice. but he spoke softly. >> he became a pastor at just 18. >> yeah he was a credible man. i worked with him, i worked with
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him on a fund raising drive. years ago, i helped him raise money for the steeple. it's such an important part of our community. >> do you view this -- authority authorities have you know looked into this as a hate crime, obviously. >> do you view this as an act of terrorism? >> i think you would consider it a hate crime. there's something weird and bad and hateful going on in his mind. >> can this churm recover? can this community recover? what is your message to african americans tonight? they feel an out pouring of love
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from all citizens of all backgrounds. this is a very together community. black and white and young and old. and diverse people. we've built so much together. we're working hard to build a beautiful african american museum. and then work on projects together. so the community across racial lines is torn. but with the out pouring of love you know in light, it's not when you fall. it's how you get up. and you will see this community and the love that they give to the families and to this church and to the knitting that will go on will be the marker, i believe. >> i appreciate your time. thank you. >> thank you. >> up next, what we've learned about the 21-year-old behind this horrible attack the possible motivation and the warning signs that were messed.
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well the sense of grief here in charleston south carolina are simply overwhelming. gunned down inside the church behind me as they studied the bible. it may come from the fact that the suspected shooter is in custody. we've been gathering a lot of information about the nine people whose lives were lost. we're going to tell you about them as much as we learned about them in the broadcast. and even tomorrow night, we hope we know even more to tell you about. we want the focus to be on them. but as we reported this is an on going investigation and police are looking for more information about the alleged shooter. he was am rehen henapprehended this morning. >> i told the kid, i'm telling you, divine intervention.
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god had me where i needed to be. i'm not going to tell you i wasn't afraid. i was scared now. if i could get there and do it safely get his tag number, anyway, you know. and he wasn't driving that fast when i seen him. if it's not meant for me to catch him, i won't catch him. >> she caught him all right. the suspect waived extradition after his arrest. minutes ago, drew griffin joins me now. this is not the first time this guy was arrested. >> not too far from where i'm standing this is his high school in lexington, south carolina. he was at the mall acting
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strange, asking very odd questions to a couple of store clerks. one associate was so nervous because she says he had his hand in his pocket. she thought he might have a gun at that time. this was in february. police were called. they confronted him. they found suboxin. he showed up at the mall again and then was arrested for trespassing. so he was arrested twice at the same mall just months ago. >> and you've been hearing more about his past. what did you learn? >> we don't want to dwell on him and we're not saying his name. but when this grief subsides the more we're learning about this guy and the more enfur rating it's going to be.
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there were warning signs all over the place, anderson. we know he was a ninth grade dropout. he was getting deep into drugs. his grandfather told the wall street journal he was concerned because his grandson was becoming a loaner and espousing some hatred racists talking crazy talk and this is the person to whom we are reportedly told was given a gun on his 21st birthday. so once we get passed this period of morning, there are going to be some very, very
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serious questions about where were the warning signs missed. and why wasn't something done before if this could have taken place. >> if in fact he was given a handgun on his 21st birth day, that would be months after he's arrested for drugs and showing up oddly at this mall asking about people's schedules. and also i guess, trespassing. so why would parents give this guy a handgun given his legal trouble. and, aparentally, trouble other members of the family saw. >> yeah. and that of course is a question that we like to ask the family members. we have reached out in many, many different ways to friends and family. and they have been very, very tight-lipped. we don't know how far along these cases have gone. can you give this guy a gun? was he convicted of any kind of a felony which might have prevented that? all of those records are yet to
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be exposed. at this point, it seems to be that even with all of his troubles he was given a gun by his family. was that a smart move? obviously, in hindsight, no. wlafs the reasoning bhiebd it. >> obviously, investigators are continuing to follow it with the investigation now. police are looking for as much information as they can get. here's one of the images of the suspected that has surfaced. if you look at it, those are flag patches. sur visors say the gunman made it clear he was there to kill black men. you heard it from a friend who was there on this broadcast.
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>> richard, was this alleged gunman was he on the property law center's radar before the shooting took place? did he have any known connections that you're aware of with white supremacy groups or hate group sns. >> we didn't noe him, but we knew many, many many, many many young men liked him. people who are trying to hook onto a cause larger than themselves to explain their failures. other than his age, he's -- fits the profile of the typical loan wolf white supremeist terrorist. >> you say most hate crimes are committed by people with no affiliate to hate groups. >> that's exactly right. it's always been the case.
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the ideas that mote vase perpetrators like this. now what we see is people drifting away from hate groups and retreating to the anonimty of the debt. >> last year anderson we did a report that killed scores and scores of people in the last five years. >> you see the patches on his jacket that we showed you a second ago? the other from rhodesia. >> those flags have been adocumented by modern day white supremists. >> that flag is definitely unusual.
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>> that seems to be some of the things that mote vated him when he's talking about black people taking over our country. >> that seems to be a pretty familiar refrain that you hear. >> absolutely. a very prominent one hi name is bob whitaker. it's a very very common theme. >> richard cowan, thank you very much. up next as we've mentioned, one of the victims of the massacre inside. we talked to his cousin earlier. tonight, he's being remembered as a remarkable human being
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>> where you are is a very special place in charleston. this church and this site this area has been tied to the history of life of african americans since about the early 1800s. >> talk about the church's incredibly rich history. no one was certainly prepared for what had to be said.
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sanders was the youngest victim. he was 26 years old. just a recent college graduate. >> the sadness in this family. they lost the matriarch and they also lost her grand nephew. this vie brent promising young man flt. >> suzie, the 87-year-old, just a few blocks from here. we went to her house today, there were about 20 of her relatives. >> yes, i talked to her son, her son, waulter, who lives in cleveland, ohio. rushed here and talked to the family.
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>> never wanted for anything in my life. we weren't rich, but never wanted anything. >> even when i come home now sometimes, i'm an old man now. >> you're 6 8, you told me. >> she's still waiting until i get home. that's just the type of person she was. >> yeah, but a wonderful person. >> oh, yeah. they love her grand kids great grand kids they love it all: >> it often surprisings viewers that people want to talk in a time like this. in that family picture, we had a
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son, brothers sisters, nieces nephews, aunts, uncles, cousins. in her retirement she dwoeted herself to her family and to her church. and one thick they thing they kept testimonying us, shefts a beautiful woman. she was a stunning young woman. but beautiful inside and out. that was her back then. we certainly learned a lot about this family today. we certainly hope to learn more about the victims. i think it's so important at a time like this to learn all we can. i'll let people know about the trajs day here and the lives that were lost. reverend the pastor of the church was also a state senator as we mentioned. he died inside the church that he had poured so much lover and
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so much energy in to over the years. hi's a native of north charleston. and his office organized a prayer service on capitol hill this afternoon when a hundred members of congress and staffers attended. senator scott rushed back to charleston this morning. i spoke to him just a short time before we have went on air. >> do you have anymore information tonight about what mote valt third-degree person? >> we really do not. the law enforcement officials are really on to have of that. we look forward to seeing what the response is. >> the hegs ri of this churj is so incredible and so important to the african american community, not only here in
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charleston but also here in the country. >> oldest in the south of baltimore. that's why they call this mother e manual. was a good man. he was an encourager. none of that stood in the way. he was always looking for a way to cross the bridge to bring people together. and he wanted us to work on some of the i shall shoes that would impact the counties together. he was consistently looking for ways to make our community a model for the world to see. he just had an amazing heart and strong vision. >> do you see this, and there's been a plot of talk today about whether this is an act of tefr rich. >> do you see it assage act of
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terrorism? >> i see the terrorism component as it relates to center violence. >> and you have no date that raise was involved? >> i ya, it's hard to argue with that. the fact of the matter, they've got south carolina. but what we want people to remember is the picture of the people that came to church today. >> senator, i appreciate your time. thank you so much. >> up next, we're going to take you inside the bible study just before last night's shooting rapt page. you see the alleged gunmen at one point and play the exclusive video for you coming up and more on the lives of those who were killed here. ♪ we call ourselves the freedom hikers. the turtle cove fin club. the team jet runners.
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welcome back. we are live outside the church where last night's massacre took place. we showed you exclusive video of last night's bible study meeting. the video was taken by one of
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the victims. please keep in mind they welcomed him in for that bible study class. take a look. >> so don lemon got the video. he joins us with more on our senior analyst, jeffrey toobin. one way, you can see the shooter sitting there with them i understand? >> yeah and i don't think they meant to cap cur the student there. he posted this on a snap chat. this is before the shooting happened.
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you can see the prayer leaders there, the bible leaders there. what's so sad is that he ingrash yated himself within this group. and led them to believe that he was one of them. when, all the time he was planning this in his head and basically, thoerp sitting ducks. learning about god and the devil. evil was right there among them. >> they welcomed him in. they opened their arms to this stranger. how is that playing out here? >> south carolina guz. south carolina has the death penalty. this is a multiple, mull pl homicide.
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south carolina is a state unlike california that executes people. it is inconceivable to me that south carolina would not seek the death penalty. i think that's how the case will proceed. and we'll see what kind of defense it comes up with. interestingly, it seems to have some echoes of the boston bombing case which we just went through a very young defendant. obviously guilty. >> you know, i've been amazed. obviously, there's a lot of hurt, a lot of anger. but there is this sengsz of coming together that is extraordinary to witness. >> oh, absolutely. you know the bulk of the people the majority 99.9% of
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the people i've had interactions with here, they dom over and say i saw you on television. so anderson this is a community of people with a lot of faith. and i spoke with someone who was helping to capture this man. they say that god put them in the right place at the right time. think they that's divine. intervention. >> anderson? >>. >> can i just say something about that video which i am sort of so stunned by. i guess we all have pictures of what it might have looked like.
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ilgts's such a small group of people. et's so sickening. >> up next, we remember the victims.
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>> >>. >> oh, we shall. >> the leader of the e manual church was well-known in charleston not only as a religious leader, but also a state senator. he became a pastor at age 18. he was elected at 23 making him the youngest in history oaf south carolina. friends remember him as a jentle man with a strong voice recognizable to all who knew him. reverend picney spoke out and pushed legislation to wear body cameras. squl it has really created a real heart ache and a yearning for justice. people are not just in the african american community, but for all people. >> today, his desk at the snat
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senate remains empty, draped in black. he was 41 years old. >> a recent graduate from allen university he was known as a quiet student committed to his education and to his church. >> singleton was another reverend at the church. she was also a speech therapist and track and field coach. her son posted this picture of the two of them on mother's day with the caption happy mother's day to my bufrl, number one fan that has always been there when i needed her. cynthia herd worked in the library system. she dedicated her life to helping people especially helping them become educated. he also serve ds at the
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church as a minister and leaves mind four daughters. >> suzi jackson was at bible study with her cousin, edle. she worked for 30 years there, most recent ri as the janitor. simmons was a retired pastor and faitly attended the church every sunday for service and every wednesday night for bible study. mira thompson was teaching bible study in the church when the gunman opened fire. she's described as a person who loved the lord and warranted to serve in everything she did. >> an 87-year-old woman and agt others murdered in a house of worship. they will be remembered. that does it for this special edition of 360." we'll continue to learn more about those who lost their lives
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and bring in their stories tomorrow and tomorrow night as well. we think that is the least we can do. as well as continue to follow what happens to the man responsible for all of this. the cnn original >> did someone put up a lot of money to have the democratic headquarters infiltrated and if so, who and why? >> justice will be pursued no matter who's involved. >> do you have information implicating president nixon? >> the president of the united states demanded the attorney general fire the special prosecutor. >> that is the definition of tyranny. people have got to know whether or not their president's a crook. well, i'm not a crook. >> i don't think there was ever any discussion that there wouldn't be a cover-up. >> congress must move ahead with impeachment